Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s love was on full display during her August 13 appearance on his “New Heights” podcast. In between the story of how she got her masters back in May, backstage secrets of her Eras Tour and the announcement of her new album,

The couple is engaging in an important connective act, according to acclaimed psychotherapist Esther Perel, who specializes in human relationships.

Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce shared a behind-the-scenes look at their New Heights podcast episode with sweet moments and vocal warm-ups